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(@santinocaccone)
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This is definitely a deep team with all top 100 guys. Blake for $2 is a steal. It's hard to really judge an auction mock because people tend to leave before it's over and all the stuff that makes it unrealistic. If Blake went for $2, I'm assuming you got some of those guys for $1 which shouldn't happen in a normal draft. If this was a real draft it's a very good team that is well-rounded. But again, I can't say much on this draft as a mock, which is a bummer in itself.

 
Posted : 21/09/2019 6:26 am
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Again, I don't really try to punt categories, it gives you less room for error to win in a head-to-head matchup. I tend to stick to the best players with a higher grade for people who can gobble up defensive stats. With that said, I am extremely high on Draymond this year and will be heavily targeting him. If it were me, I would take that deal. While Conley is a great player and does his thing, I would take Dray higher in the draft. He has too unique of a statistical output and now KD is gone. He was a consensus top 20-guy before KD and showed in the playoffs that he should be running the offense and pushing the ball more again. I like his talent more so I would definitely do it, and if you need to add another guard later then you can trade for one at that time.

 
Posted : 21/09/2019 6:51 am
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I'm curious to know if you and Mitch, who posted below a few minutes later, are in the same league?

Anyway, I like this squad. That's a mouthwatering big man group with Drummond, Draymond, and Gobert leading the way. This team is going to be awesome in the defensive and rebounding categories. This is probably the best collection of bigs in your league.

Harden is elite. getting Wright, Bledsoe and Covington is going to pair tremendously with your bigs. I really like the Tatum pick, he can most certainly return to the promise he showed as a rookie. Collins, Allen, and Anderson are more solid late-round picks with upside. They each have questions and concerns about entering the season but have the ability to quell them easily. That's what you want to do with your later round guys.

This is a very good team that shouldn't have any issues making the playoffs and competing for a championship this year, barring unforeseen circumstances. With the youth on your team, you are set up for future success as well. Good draft!

 
Posted : 22/09/2019 10:40 am
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With Klay and KD this team is looking towards the future. I like taking both in a dynasty, as I mentioned in an earlier post. They're worth the gamble at their current prices. You're looking at an uphill climb to make the playoffs this season, I just don't see it, but it could be a completely different case next year.

KAT is a stud and I am a huge fan of Trae. Porter is a good all-around fantasy contributor and one of the more solid picks. I like Middleton's story and play, but he's not a guy I would personally target with where he's typically going. Really like Miles pick even if it was a bit earlier than usual. He has the ability to be a 1/1/1 guy with more time and expected improvement in a bigger role. Sataransky was a great snag late as well. I am just as intrigued in Rui as so many others.

This team ultimately all comes down to how KD overcomes the Achilles injury. Klay should be fine with so many athletes now beating ACL injuries and beating them quicker, but the Achilles has historically been the worst possible injury for an NBA athlete to have. With a talent like KD I wouldn't put it past him to break the mold, and as I said is worth the risk, but it's a major one.

 
Posted : 22/09/2019 10:57 am
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AD is going to be a monster with whoever he plays with. There really is nothing he can't do on a basketball court when he's on one. Steph is certainly worthy of a top pick, but it would be hard for me to pass on AD.

Mocks are hard to judge because people leave them so early every time. While they give you a baseline of some sort, it's basically just ADP for whatever site you use after the first couple rounds since there are so many auto picks.

That's not a bad strategy to take highest upside bigs, I'd throw in Mitch Robinson and Draymond as targets during those rounds. Lowry and Lonzo were good mid-round values as well. If Lonzo can prove healthy he should finally be able to showcase his skillset this year. Looney is an underrated great late-round target at the end of drafts. Kerr really likes him and he's going to get the chance to play more valuable minutes this year.

I think the strategy can be effective and it'll depend on the value you can get. I think this is a solid team that'll be competitive, but it's missing something for me and I can't quite tell what it is.

 
Posted : 22/09/2019 11:48 am
(@mitch-ashby)
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Cheers for the breakdown!

Update, I put KD and Klay in my IR spots and grabbed Bazemore and Barton from the WW

Any positions or stats you think I’m lacking in and if so how would you go about filling the holes up?

 
Posted : 22/09/2019 5:50 pm
(@andreasantoniostsatsos1988)
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9 CAT, H2H league, 12 teams....

Just concluded our draft a few minutes ago. i had the 2nd overall pick in a snake draft. It’s a daily lineup setup, starting 6 players, PG,SG,SF,PF,C,1 UTL... and the remaining 7 are bench players.

What are your thoughts on my team guys? Areas that I need to improve on? Is this team an average team?,contender? or a weak team? Any recommendations are wlecome.

First Round-KARL ANTHONY TOWNS
2nd Round- JRUE HOLIDAY
3rd Round- DEANDRE AYTON
4th Round- OTTO PORTER
5th Round- BUDDY HIELD
6th Round- JONAS VALANCIUNAS
7th Round- SHAI GILGEOUS ALEXANDER
8th Round- JONATHAN ISAAC
9th Round- MILES BRIDGES
10th Round- DELON WRIGHT
11th Round- DERRICK WHITE
12th Round- TJ WARREN
13th Round- DAVIS BERTANS

 
Posted : 22/09/2019 6:32 pm
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I'd say you need another big man or two. You used two top-22 picks on bigs and then only have Nance and Rui to round them out and not guys who necessarily contribute in blocks and rebounds outside of those two. Durant will help out, but that won't happen until 2020-21. Assists is another cat you're low on, but it'll be tough to find that on the wire until someone gets hurt.

 
Posted : 24/09/2019 5:18 am
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Is this a 12 man or 10 man league? That's a big one to know. Before I get started I have to stress that I am not a fan of standard-sized leagues and avoid them in general in all fantasy sports. While this league is a standard-league size, it takes a different approach to rosters. Personally, I emphatically dislike it. I would prefer to do a standard league and as I said earlier, I avoid them.

I'm not sure why there are more bench guys than starters but to each their own. To me, starting only six people takes all the fun out of identifying sleepers and potential breakouts after the top 70 (assuming it's a 12 man league). It takes on the look of an NBA roster, which sounds cool in theory, but doesn't quite blend into fantasy.

With all that said I'll try to do my best on this. This team does have its flaws, no big man after the sixth round, punting assists, and a few guys you drafted earlier than others on in comparison to some of the earlier posts, but this format may be a silver lining for you. You can put more emphasis on certain cats each week depending on how it's going for you, and can somewhat mitigate deeper teams. For example, just having the trio of bigs will keep you afloat more in this league than one where you start even the standard 10. I mentioned in an earlier post that I don't typically target Heild where he goes, but in this league, his numbers make more sense to me. A blocking specialist becomes extremely valuable here as well since most of the teams' production will be on the bench.

Your team will be good at the 3-and-D categories and that's a great start and you can play the matchups to however the week is going. I'd say to try and get more bigs and blocks, but ultimately it's hard to judge a fantasy team on its depth when the league rules (for the most) mitigate it. Under the league construction, I like your chances to make the playoffs. Your team is well-rounded enough to maneuver your daily lineups accordingly in each matchup.

 
Posted : 24/09/2019 6:57 am
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@santino- Its a 12 team league, which picks did you feel like I grabbed someone earlier than expected? It doesn’t make sense to me, I felt like I grabbed everyone at the right range. Yes we only start 6 guys but its a daily setup so you can start different players each day.

 
Posted : 24/09/2019 10:18 am
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Hey man, sorry about that I saw the rounds wrong and was up 1 for some reason on the middle rounds back. Don't mind that. You're in the relative range of earlier posts.

Also yeah, daily lineups are the default on all fantasy sites, so it's no different from a standard league comparison except that the available starters per day are almost cut in half. Obviously, teams don't play every day, but this setup is going to leave an extreme amount of stats on the bench even on a slow slate.

 
Posted : 25/09/2019 8:46 am
(@trackster006)
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Cool thread! I typically don't post in "Rate My Team" forums but this one has caused me to have a change of heart. 🙂

Am I allowed to post multiple teams because there are two, in particular, I'm keen on getting feedback on? If not, that's totally fine; I don't want to take up too much of your time and Team 2 is my priority. For what it's worth, I can bribe you with...positive life karma? Maybe a virtual hug?

Team 1 is my team from Hoop Ball Dynasty 4 (24-Team, 8 starters/4 bench/1 minors, H2H, 9-Cat, etc)
C Mitchell Robinson - NY 1 19 19
PG Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 2 18 42
SF Jonathan Isaac - ORL 2 23 47
G Cam Reddish (R) - ATL 5 18 114
SG Lonnie Walker IV - SA 5 23 119
F Harry Giles - SAC 6 2 122
Flx De'Andre Hunter (R) 6 12 132
PF Sekou Doumbouya (R) 6 15 135
PF Nerlens Noel - OKC 7 10 154
PF Luka Samanic (R) - SA 8 6 174
SF Keldon Johnson (R) - SA 11 6 246
SF Moe Harkless - LAC 12 15 279
SG Jordan Poole (R) - GS 13 4 292

Team 2 is from an NFBKC Draft Champions League (12-Team, 12 starters (4xG, 4xF, 2xC, 2xUTL)/13 bench players, 8-Cat, Roto, Weekly Lineups, No In-Season Pickups or Trades)
10 1 Booker, Devin G
15 2 Holiday, Jrue G
27 3 Mitchell, Donovan
46 4 Cousins, DeMarcus (Pretend he's still alive obviously haha)
51 5 DeRozan, DeMar G
70 6 Isaac, Jonathan F
75 7 Hayward, Gordon F
94 8 Murray, Dejounte
99 9 Dedmon, Dewayne C
118 10 Looney, Kevon F
123 11 Prince, Taurean F
142 12 Bazemore, Kent FLEX
147 13 Gay, Rudy F
166 14 Anderson, Kyle F
171 15 Kennard, Luke G
190 16 Curry, Seth G
195 17 Harkless, Maurice
214 18 Fultz, Markelle G
219 19 Holmes, Richaun F
238 20 Lyles, Trey FLEX
243 21 Jones, Damian C
262 22 Johnson, Cameron
267 23 Spellman, Omari FLEX
286 24 Leaf, T.J. FLEX
291 25 Caruso, Alex G

PS- Should've also mentioned that the NFBKC Draft Champions League comes with an overall prize in addition to the typical league prizes, so merely winning the league isn't necessarily the end goal.

 
Posted : 25/09/2019 11:34 am
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Hey man thanks for the comment! I'll try my best and start with Team 2 since it's your main league. How long does this league last?

This is an insane roster and I love every second about how deep the league is! My one reservation is the no in-season pickups or trades, as trade talk is right behind the draft in my favorite part about fantasy. Having such a deep league helps quell the no-pickups also, but there will still be some hidden gems to emerge. It's going to be a tough and very enticing league for the fact that you can only make moves with what you have. Though I'd shed a few tears for the no trading department.

I love the parenthesis around Cousins! Did you draft this year? I learned my lesson almost a decade ago with an early draft and haven't done one since (I could be stubborn) haha. Too many things could happen in between the start of a season that'll ruin it right off bat.

Your top 4 guards can really score the basketball with a decent chunk of assists, and solid steals overall. I tend to lean more towards PG's, but those four are going to complement each other well with their similar fantasy styles. Murray is an intriguing pick but is also a big question mark and for where you took him may not only break even in value with a good season. Kennard and Curry are both solid late-round guys vying for playing time. The Pistons are hoping for Kennard to establish himself, but we'll see if he gets the time after the team added a few more guards this offseason. I absolutely love the two late-round guard picks in Fultz and Caruso, and am not sure why they lasted so long in such a deep league. The Caruso hype has been trending throughout the offseason (he even had a video package), and there is talk of him joining the starting unit. Could be a tremendous value, and as your last pick! Fultz is another guy who could prove great value. You got him extremely late and he was just cleared for full basketball activities. As an exiled and unknown recent #1 pick, the range of outcomes is anyone's guess, but that's a lottery ticket I plan on buying everywhere.

You're forwards are alright. Isaac is a fun guy to have for his defensive upside. Another year removed and no Kyrie or Horford, Hayward should return closer to his pre-injury form and find himself handling the ball a lot more. Prince, Bazemore, and Gay do what they do, which isn't bat, but they won't excite you and have limited upside. Spellman is a solid ticket as he could potentially carve out a role on the loaded Warriors. And Anderson showed promise before going down for the year. He could be a sneaky source of defensive stats.

Your big men group is flat out not good. I love the guards and you have a few solid forwards, but there are no bigs on the team. Losing Cousins is brutal, but after him, your next big was Dedmon who's in a muddied frontcourt. Looney was a great pick and we expect big things from him this year, and Holmes (who's better than Dedmon) was a bargain, but there's just nothing there to compete in Rebounds, blocks, or fg%. Not having turnovers as a stat does help you out tremendously though! This is the most barren I've seen yet, and yes Cousins played a huge role in that, but the no trading really hurts you here.

Ultimately this team will have to win the other five cats on a consistent basis to make the playoffs, which is doable as you have the guys to do it but it'll be tough. Your weekly lineup decisions are the most important thing to do in this league and I'd put as much emphasis on winning points, assists, ft%, threes, and steals as you could each week. Those top 4 guards will give you a nice head start.

 
Posted : 26/09/2019 10:25 am
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I'll keep this one short and simple for ya!
24 teams is bonkers and kudos to you for taking it on. I can only imagine what everyone's team looks like.

I see you went with the play for the future plan. I don't like to do dynasties that way, but I also have never done a 24 man league so who knows. There is potential for a bright future, but you are going to struggle to win games this year.

There was a lot of maneuvering around in the draft which is cool. I like how you were active and tried to find a spark. But I am curious what your ultimate trades were. I see you moved back in the second to get two 2nds and had no 3rd or 4th. Some guys went a bit earlier than expected. I think you had a very real shot at getting Isaac with your normal 3rd rounder, or just a few picks in front. Walker is an enticing talent, but 119 is high. Same with Giles. I can see why the later guys were picked after you established a theme already, and they make for solid lottery tickets. It's going to be a long year though with too many guys needing to climb the ladder right now. In another year or two, it may be a different story. Hopefully, you're prepared to stomach the hurt this season.

 
Posted : 26/09/2019 11:28 am
(@trackster006)
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Great responses! Thanks for taking the time to evaluate both.

Team 1
24 teams is bad enough, and then you sprinkle on the dynasty format. Too much anxiety lol.

Yeah, Isaac was a tough call for me. I had a feeling I could have waited to get him but wasn't confident enough in that prediction to risk losing out on a guy I was really high on, especially since at that point in the draft no one sparked my interest quite as much as he did. Ditto for Robinson, who cost me more than I would've liked to move up.

I completely understand your perspective. Dynasties are so tough since you never know when someone might be taken, especially in the later rounds. For instance, Brandon Clarke went at 66, Huerter at 99, Rui at 105, etc. Plus, it seemed like the remaining top-10 draft picks run was starting at the time, with Culver and White being drafted in the same range, so I figured it was best to play things safe.

I had actually traded down multiple times beforehand in an attempt to figure out the best time to pick those guys and ended up settling there, though I did think about dropping back one final time. It helped that I had done a similar dynasty the year before, during which I noticed that by pick 150 a lot of the bigger-name prospects had come off the board and so I didn't want to get too close to this mark. With Lonnie and Giles, in particular, I had done a lot of homework on each of them, so once I had committed to youth they became two of my top targets. However, I do wish I would've traded back to get Giles a little later given his lesser hype and uncertain future within the Kings frontcourt.

If you're curious, here are the 6 draft deals I was involved in (left column is me with each set representing one deal). By the way, we had 36(!!) trades go down during the draft alone and have had a bunch more since then. I never knew dynasty drafts could get THIS crazy!

2019 Draft PickRound 11 Pick 4 2019 Draft PickRound 7 Pick 15
2020 Draft PickRound 1  2019 Draft PickRound 6 Pick 12
2019 Draft PickRound 9 Pick 4

2019 Draft PickRound 5 Pick 12 2019 Draft PickRound 6 Pick 2
2020 Draft PickRound 2  2019 Draft PickRound 5 Pick 23
2019 Draft PickRound 6 Pick 19

2019 Draft PickRound 5 Pick 6 2019 Draft PickRound 5 Pick 12
2019 Draft PickRound 7 Pick 4 2019 Draft PickRound 6 Pick 15
2021 Draft PickRound 2

2019 Draft PickRound 6 Pick 7 2019 Draft PickRound 2 Pick 23
2019 Draft PickRound 3 Pick 4 2019 Draft PickRound 7 Pick 4
2019 Draft PickRound 4 Pick 21 2019 Draft PickRound 5 Pick 6

2019 Draft PickRound 6 Pick 21 2019 Draft PickRound 5 Pick 18
2019 Draft PickRound 7 Pick 6 2019 Draft PickRound 6 Pick 7
2019 Draft PickRound 2 Pick 4 2019 Draft PickRound 2 Pick 18
2019 Draft PickRound 8 Pick 21 2019 Draft PickRound 7 Pick 18

2019 Draft PickRound 1 Pick 21 2019 Draft PickRound 1 Pick 19
2019 Draft PickRound 5 Pick 4 2019 Draft PickRound 7 Pick 6
2019 Draft PickRound 10 Pick 21 2019 Draft PickRound 11 Pick 6
2019 Draft PickRound 7 Pick 4 2019 Draft PickRound 6 Pick 19

Team 2
I feel you on the no-trading aspect of things. I tend to throw in a couple of these types of leagues on top of my normal ones since the latter leagues can take up quite a bit of time, especially for heavy traders like us haha. It's just nice to have a couple of insane leagues like this one which are deep while simultaneously not requiring a lot of work. It lasts until the end of the regular season per usual.

Yeah, the draft was in early August. The funny thing about that is I also did some late September drafts last year and in a couple of them I had drafted Murray. Granted, he got hurt in early October so it's not quite the same thing, but those preseason injuries are the worst. At least this time I only had one Cousins share to lose.

Ever since the draft I've been coming down on Murray little by little, so I agree with you there. At the same time, he was a good fit for my roster with his rebounding ability and the price wasn't terrible. I'll have to live with it I guess. As for Caruso, I was actually pretty mad at myself for not realizing he was still on the board much sooner haha. Even with the hype being considerably less at the time, I agree there's no way he should've lasted so long. With the other "boring" guys, I decided to play things safer than I have in the past, as too many times have I gotten burned in this format with certain higher-risk guys not panning out and injuries forcing me to dip deeply into my inadequate depth. I feel like this group offers a decent combination of high floor and a hint of upside. Had this been a standard redraft league, I'd have gone for more upside.

Speaking of bigs, yeah lol I'm in trouble. I couldn't really afford a significant injury to one of my bigs, and of course it would happen in the preseason to my one true big on the roster. Even with a healthy Cousins, it wasn't going to be an area of strength, especially in the rebounding department.

It's tough. Given the goal of the overall league prize, you want to draft maximum value while at the same time being balanced enough to compete at a decent or better level in every category, and threading that needle can be difficult depending on the way a draft would play out. With my 3rd pick, I actually came pretty close to drafting Ayton (Collins was also in the mix), but I ended up going with Mitchell who I liked quite a bit more than them with the hope that I could somehow piece together enough big man stats later on despite knowing how quickly that cliff comes. I probably should've just bitten the bullet and drafted one of those bigs rather than trying to pull off a miracle.

With that said, I'm actually not too worried about my FG%, as Booker, DeRozan and Jrue all stand a chance to be roughly FG%-neutral, high-volume scorers (DeRozan I actually have right around .500%). Ditto for Mitchell to a lesser degree, who I think can make a jump into the .460+ range with Conley around. Granted, if those guys end up shooting the ball worse than expected, things could get dicey. Rebounds I am undoubtedly toast in. Blocks I might be able to be fringy middle-of-the-pack in if Isaac can take another step with his added mass, Dedmon and Looney can hold up their end of the bargain, and guys like Jrue and Harkless can continue to contribute something there.

Anyway, thanks again for the feedback. No need to respond to my essay haha. Just thought you deserved some reciprocation for your efforts.

 
Posted : 26/09/2019 1:06 pm
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