I am trading away Embiid and Jamal Murray for KP in our very own Hoopball dynasty league (24 teams). Obviously Embiid is a beast, but with the injury history, the turnovers and less blocks this season, I’m very happy to get Porzingis (especially as a Knicks fan). Have also been a bit disappointed in what I’ve seen from Jamal this season (should've listened more to Bru on that...) – I thought there was the potential for a real leap there right out of the gate, which was probably asking too much. Either way, he’s a late rounder for the time being so I don’t see him as a massive factor in the trade.
There are already 2 trade protests, with one of those being because “Embiid is already better than KP”, the “Blue Arrow is icing on the cake” and “Injury risk is equal between Zingis and Process”. I don’t really know where to start with those statements, but obviously Embiid has not been a picture of health, and KP is already putting up top 15 value as a 22 yr old.
What do people think of the trade and the protest? I’m genuinely curious. FWIW KP was originally drafted 12th, Embiid 24th, and Murray 48th.
Murray has a lot more appeal in dynasty and I can see their viewpoint of KP/Embiid both being very injury prone. Not really a veto-able trade though
Vetoes are bunk. Push it through, Commish (danny)!
I guess to me it feels like the probability of Embiid having a long and healthy career is perhaps somewhere around 50%, whereas for KP I would put that at perhaps 70-80%. And in a deep dynasty league, if your top man is out then you're essentially out of contention altogether. I don't see the upside for a healthy Embiid as significantly higher than KP's, given the much higher TOs (blocks similar, scoring similar, KP more 3s, Embiid more boards), I think the upside case for both is top 10 production for several years, with them both having a blue sky top 5 case. As such, I think Murray is going to have to develop into something like a top 30 player to bridge the gap between a top 10 guy with a 75% chance of being on the court and a top 10 guy with a 50% chance of being on the court. And I'm not as high on the likelihood of that as I was when I drafted him.
